I
remembered this remark of a staunch Hindu apologist, who also happens to be my colleague and friend, to my criticism of Adi Sankara’s commentaries as being
nonsensical
What if Adi Shankara’s theories were
neither vague nor nonsensical. What if *we* are not smart enough to understand
them thanks to McCaulization? What if Indians in those days perfectly
understood? May be that is the reason they worshipped him?
I am quoting below an
English translation of a quote from Adi
Sankara’s so-called 'great', 'enlightening' and revered Bhashyas. The title goes something like this
Here the actual commentary Quote
begins
“ (Brahman is that) from which the origin, (i.e. the origin,
subsistence, and dissolution) of this (world proceed).
The term, implies subsistence and re-absorption. That the origin is
mentioned first (of the three) depends on the declaration of Scripture as well
as on the natural development of a substance. Scripture declares the order of
succession of origin, subsistence, and dissolution in the passage, Taitt. Up.
III, I, 'From whence these beings are born,'. And with regard to the
second reason stated, it is known that a substrate of qualities can subsist and
be dissolved only after it has entered, through origination, on the state of
existence.
The words 'of this' denote that substrate of qualities which is
presented to us by perception and the other means of right knowledge; the
genitive case indicates it to be connected with origin, . The words 'from
which' denote the cause.
The full sense of the Sûtra therefore is: That
omniscient omnipotent cause from which proceed the origin, subsistence, and
dissolution of this world--which world is differentiated by names and forms,
contains many agents and enjoyers, is the abode of the fruits of actions, these
fruits having their definite places, times, and causes 1, and the nature of whose arrangement
cannot even be conceived by the mind,--that cause, we say, is Brahman.
Since
the other forms of existence (such as increase, decline) are included
in origination, subsistence, and dissolution, only the three latter are
referred to in the Sûtra. As the six stages of existence enumerated by
Yâska 2 are possible only during the period of the
world's subsistence, it might--were they referred to in the Sûtra--be suspected
that what is meant are not the origin, subsistence, and dissolution (of the
world) as dependent on the first cause. To preclude this suspicion the Sûtra is
to be taken as referring, in addition to the world's origination from Brahman,
only to its subsistence in Brahman, and final dissolution into Brahman.
The origin, of a world possessing the attributes stated above cannot
possibly proceed from anything else but a Lord possessing the stated qualities;
not either from a non-intelligent prâdhana 3, or from atoms, or from non-being, or from
a being subject to transmigration 1; nor, again, can it proceed from its own
nature (i.e. spontaneously, without a cause), since we observe that (for the
production of effects) special places, times, and causes have invariably to be
employed.
(Some of) those who maintain a Lord to be the cause of the world 2, think that the existence of a Lord
different from mere transmigrating beings can be inferred by means of the
argument stated just now (without recourse being had to Scripture at
all).--But, it might be said, you yourself in the Sûtra under discussion have
merely brought forward the same argument!--By no means, we reply. The Sûtras
(i.e. literally 'the strings') have merely the purpose of stringing together
the flowers of the Vedânta-passages. In reality the Vedânta-passages referred
to by the Sûtras are discussed here.
For the comprehension of Brahman is
effected by the ascertainment, consequent on discussion, of the sense of the
Vedânta-texts, not either by inference or by the other means of right
knowledge. While, however, the Vedânta-passages primarily declare the cause of
the origin, of the world, inference also, being an instrument of right
knowledge in so far as it does not contradict the Vedânta-texts, is not to be
excluded as a means of confirming the meaning ascertained. Scripture itself,
moreover, allows argumentation; for the passages, Bri. Up. II, 4, 5
('the Self is to be heard, to be considered'), and Kh. Up. VI, 14, 2
('as the man, &c., having been informed, and being able to judge for
himself, would arrive at Gandhâra, in the same way a man who meets with a
teacher obtains knowledge'), declare that human understanding assists Scripture.
Scriptural text, 4, are not, in the enquiry into Brahman, the
only means of knowledge, as they are in the enquiry into active duty (i.e. in
the Pûrva Mimâmsâ), but scriptural texts on the one hand, and
intuition 1, , on the other hand, are to be had
recourse to according to the occasion: firstly, because intuition is the final
result of the enquiry into Brahman; secondly, because the object of the enquiry
is an existing (accomplished) substance.
If the object of the knowledge of
Brahman were something to be accomplished, there would be no reference to
intuition, and text, , would be the only means of knowledge. The
origination of something to be accomplished depends, moreover, on man since any
action either of ordinary life, or dependent on the Veda may either be done or
not be done, or be done in a different way.
A man, for instance, may move on
either by means of a horse, or by means of his feet, or by some other means, or
not at all. And again (to quote examples of actions dependent on the Veda), we
meet in Scripture with sentences such as the following: 'At the atirâtra he
takes the shodasin cup,' and 'at the atirâtra he does not take the shodasin
cup;' or, 'he makes the oblation after the sun has risen,' and, 'he makes the
oblation when the sun has not yet risen.' Just as in the quoted instances,
injunctions and prohibitions, allowances of optional procedure, general rules
and exceptions have their place, so they would have their place with regard to
Brahman also (if the latter were a thing to be accomplished).
But the fact is
that no option is possible as to whether a substance is to be thus or thus, is
to be or not to be. All option depends on the notions of man; but the knowledge
of the real nature of a thing does not depend on the notions of man, but only
on the thing itself. For to think with regard to a post, 'this is a post or a
man, or something else,' is not knowledge of truth; the two ideas, 'it is a man
or something else,' being false, and only the third idea, 'it is a post,' which
depends on the thing itself, falling under the head of true knowledge.
Thus
true knowledge of all existing things depends on the things themselves, and
hence the knowledge of Brahman also depends altogether on the thing, i.e.
Brahman itself.--But, it might be said, as Brahman is an existing substance, it
will be the object of the other means of right knowledge also, and from this it
follows that a discussion of the Vedânta-texts is purposeless.--
This we deny;
for as Brahman is not an object of the senses, it has no connection with those
other means of knowledge. For the senses have, according to their nature, only
external things for their objects, not Brahman. If Brahman were an object of
the senses, we might perceive that the world is connected with Brahman as its
effect; but as the effect only (i.e. the world) is perceived, it is impossible
to decide (through perception) whether it is connected with Brahman or
something else.
Therefore the Sûtra under discussion is not meant to propound
inference (as the means of knowing Brahman), but rather to set forth a
Vedânta-text.--Which, then, is the Vedânta-text which the Sûtra points at as
having to be considered with reference to the characteristics of Brahman?--
It
is the passage Taitt. Up. III, 1, 'Bhrigu Vâruni went to his
father Varuna, saying, Sir, teach me Brahman,' , up to 'That from
whence these beings are born, that by which, when born, they live, that into
which they enter at their death, try to know that. That is Brahman.' The
sentence finally determining the sense of this passage is found III, 6: 'From
bliss these beings are born; by bliss, when born, they, live; into bliss they
enter at their death.' Other passages also are to be adduced which declare the
cause to be the almighty Being, whose essential nature is eternal purity,
intelligence, and freedom.
That Brahman is omniscient we have been made to infer from it being shown
that it is the cause of the world.”
Quote
ends
I will take up some of these passages in later posts for illustrating in greater detail, how they are a greater assault upon sense and reason, as much as they are an infliction upon our taste and literary sensibilities.
Though
very few people can make any sense of this prolix, meandering, speculative
huffing and puffing by Adi Sankara, he
is merely postulating an elaborate smoke and mirrors argumentation about an
un-caused primary cause, which is supposedly the Brahman.
All
this idealistic and metaphysical hot air about the un-caused cause and first cause
and sundry has long been debunked by thinkers of yore and of the present,
starting from Lucretius and Democritus of Rome and Greece, to David Hume, JS Mill and
Bertrand Russell in the recent times.
Modern skeptics even consider it waste of time and argument to attempt the debunking of all such pipe-dream theories of religious prophets.
Modern skeptics even consider it waste of time and argument to attempt the debunking of all such pipe-dream theories of religious prophets.
This
is just one quote from one Adhyaya of
his numerous bhashyas and there are many more dripping with similar or worse
metaphysical and argumentative gibberish
Though
I consider him to be the pioneer and father of Hindu spiritual gobbledygook
(Ramanujacharya and Madhavacharya are in hot pursuit of that trophy too), I am
not any longer amazed at his reverential following and his peerless reputation as a thinker and
reformer.
Given
Adi Sankara’s circumlocutory style of argumentation and his labored parsing of
the logic of opposing arguments and theories, the critical part of today’s
world would likely consider him more a shrewd and stubborn pedagogue, than an enlightened philosopher and reformer.
But
to borrow a phrase from Shakespeare and modify it “The fault, dear Brutus, is
not in the prophets, but in us!”
The point here is not decide the merits of Adi Sankara’s
philosophy, but to wonder at the mindset of a society and nation that worships
its religious prophets without caring to know whether their works make any
sense or not.
Utterly brilliant. The problem is you probably need to debunk a little more, with the original Samskrit verses...
ReplyDeleteThe whole indic scripture is a pile of nonsense.
However, the current class of educated fools won't realize it.
Ignorance, is , after all, bliss.
Thanks for the comments...The problem is that I am not an expert on Sanskrit and will have to rely on English translations of the verses.
DeleteBut surely it would make sense to take smaller verses and expose the deception in them
I do agree with you that Vedic scriptures is a pile of rubbish
So You are not an expert in Samskrutam but trying to decipher the meaning of a text which was written in Sanskrit and depending on a text which later translated in to a foreign language, which is not your mother tongue.This explains everything.I know Sanskrit is a bit too much for your brain which is brainwashed with so called modern education.How about if you at least start recite Bhajagovindam everyday, which was originally written for fools like you :)
DeleteAdi,
DeleteIf you are so confident about your Sanskrit, pls feel free to peer-review the translation by Ralph T Griffith of the Vedanta Sutra Bhasya. And point out what translation errors are there and which primary arguments about Brahman were misstated therein and how they should be restated or reframed with proper support and citations.
I highly doubt if you know any Sanskrit yourself apart from making smart-ass comments and quoting out of context my remarks on Sanskrit. Bhajagovindam may have been written for fools by Adi Sankara, but it has been translated into English, not by some European Indologist, but by Chinmayananda for fools like you.
I am happy with my modern education, you can wallow in the filth of your religious attitude mistaking it to be bliss.